Agenda: Shires League Meeting.

 

Saturday 31st August 2002 at Babbington College, Leicester. 12 noon to 2pm.

 

  1. Welcome and introductions and apologies.

 

  1. Voting on the various proposals – these are listed below.

Section A.

1.        Divide the 20 teams into three groups; A, B and C.

Group A Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Cheshire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire

4 matches at U13, 3 matches at U15 and 6 matches at U17

Group B Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Hertfordshire, Leicestershire, Northants

5 matches at U13, 5 matches at U15 and 5 matches at U17

Group C Avon, Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire, Surrey, Sussex, Hampshire

5 matches at U13, 6 matches at U15 and 5 matches at U17

 

2.        Divide the 20 teams into three groups; A, B and C.

Group A – Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Staffordshire, Cheshire & Shropshire. 5 matches at U13, 4 matches at U15, 6 matches at U17.

Group B – Worcestershire, Warwickshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Norfolk. 5 matches at U13, 5 matches at U15, 6 matches at U17.

Group C – Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Surrey, Sussex, Hampshire and Avon.

4 matches U13, 5 matches U15, 5 matches at U17.

 

3.        The U17 groups are arranged in three groups.

The U15 teams are split into two groups.

Group A Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Leicestershire, Norfolk, Warwickshire – 7 matches

Group B Northants, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire, Surrey, Sussex, Avon, Hampshire, Berkshire – 8 matches

The U13 teams are split into two groups.

Group A Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Leicestershire, Norfolk, Warwickshire, Shropshire – 8 matches

Group B Northants, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire, Surrey, Sussex, Hampshire, Berkshire - 7 matches

 

If one of these proposals is accepted go to section C, otherwise go to section B.

 

Section B

4.        The Shires League remains as last year with the addition of Yorkshire. (No condition no home venues) [If this is motion is not carried then the Shires League will remain the same as last year without Yorkshire.]

5.        The remaining counties opt if they would like to make a league for this year. (This will give me time during the next 12 months to make contact with other counties and work out a more equitable arrangement.)

Go to point 3 of the agenda

 

Section C

6.        The finals are played over two weekends, viz

At the end of the season the three group winners from A, B and C are ranked according to the matches won, then rubbers won in the event of a tie followed by points for minus points against in the event of a further tie. (Call these teams, 1st, 2nd and 3rd).

The 2nd will play the 3rd (2nd playing at home, 3rd playing away.)

The 1st will play the winner of the above match. (1st playing at home)

7.        Played as a round robin at one venue over a weekend.

8.        If played as a round robin the match will be held at Babbington College, Leicester.

9.        The weekend / weekends to be reserved for the finals.

 

If it decided to play the match as a round robin we will need to decide the format of the match – these may include.

10.     Playing both matches to 20 rubbers, best of 3 games.

11.     Playing all matches to best of 3 games, but omitting the cross over doubles.

12.     Playing both matches to 20 rubbers, each game to 21 points (or 15 points etc)

13.     Another suggestion.

 

It may be necessary for a postal vote on items 10-13 above.

 

Section D

14.     That a maximum of 24 counties are enlisted to join the Shires League for 2003 – dividing them into 3 groups of 8.

15.     After consultation, the secretary decides which counties go into which group.

16.     The composition of the groups will be reviewed before the start of each new season, with the aim of ensuring an equitable number of matches for all counties at all age groups.

17.     The groups are slightly altered every two years, bearing in mind geographical areas.

 

 

  1. Check on age groups playing this year.

 

  1. Reminder of things that fixtures secretaries need to give league secretary.

1.      Remittance by 30th September 2002.

For one age group £32, for two age groups £44, for three age groups £56.

2.      List of names, addresses and telephone numbers of each team manager. Each person’s e-mail address would also be an added bonus. All correspondence will be made by e-mail if possible.

3.      Confirm the date, time, age group, and venue of all your Shires League fixtures.

 

  1. Date, time and venue of next meeting. Suggested Saturday 6th September 2003 at Babbington College, Leicester.

 

  1. A.O.B.

 

  1. Fixtures.

Shires League Badminton

 

Shires League Badminton Meeting: Saturday 31 August 2002 at Babbington College, Leicestershire.

Minutes of meeting.

 

Agenda item 1.

 

Present:

Neil Jeffs of Northants, Alan Hope of Worcestershire, Margaret Hope of Worcestershire, Graham Ashdown of Oxfordshire, Terry Gooding of Warwickshire, Max Goant of Warwickshire, Maria Newbery of Hampshire, Lynne Gittins of Hampshire, Paul Adcock of Nottinghamshire, Maureen Ryves of Nottinghamshire, Melvin Bullock of Derbyshire, Michelle Whitehouse of Berkshire, Rob Stanford of Buckinghamshire, Colin Kent of Leicestershire, Sue Hutt of Lincolnshire, Phil Davies of Norfolk, John Ellis of Yorkshire, Chris Turner of Staffordshire, Michelle Martin of Staffordshire, Sue White of Staffordshire, Jenny Lester of Leicestershire and Ian Rizzotto (secretary)

 

Apologies from the following counties – individuals not named:

Hertfordshire, Sussex, Surrey

 

There were no representatives from Avon, Cheshire, Devon and Shropshire.

 

Agenda item 2.

 

It was agreed by the original members of Shires League by 8 votes to 0 that the 20 counties should be split into 3 groups. Therefore, the applications from Avon, Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Cheshire, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Shropshire, Sussex, Surrey, Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Yorkshire were all accepted for membership of league. It is also understood that Devon will make up one of the four additional teams that will hopefully join in the league in 2003.

 

Voting from this time on consisted of all members present at that time (15 counties)

 

It was agreed to divide the 20 teams into three groups A, B and C.

Group A           Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Staffordshire, Cheshire and Shropshire

Group B           Worcestershire, Warwickshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Norfolk

Group C           Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Surrey, Sussex, Hampshire and Avon

 

This option was only narrowly carried by 8 votes to 7 votes.

 

It was not planned to re-arrange the groups in the event that a team dropped out for some reason. It was suggested that friendly matches were also organised to make up to the number of fixtures required.

 

It was agreed for the final to be a one-day event hosted at the 8 court Babbington College, Leicester. The dates selected are as follows; U13 final held on Sunday 27 April 2003, U15 final held on Sunday 18 May 2003 and U17 final held on Sunday 04 May 2003.

 

The top two teams from each of the 3 league groups; A, B and C, would be invited to play in the finals in an ICT format match. (A team would consist of 4 or 5 boys and 4 or 5 girls. No one player is allowed to play in more than 2 events per match. Each match consists of 2MD, 2BS, 2GS, 2BD and 2GD with each game to 21 points. The winner of the match is the team that wins most games. In the event of a 5-5 tie, the winner will be the one who scored the highest number of points. [These rules are as for ICT])

 

Every effort should be made to play all Shires League matches before Easter to allow time for invitations for the finals to be sent out.

 

Agenda item 3.

 

The following table confirms the age groups taking part in the league for 2002-2003

 

1.           Avon

 

15

17

2.           Berkshire

13

15

 

3.           Buckinghamshire

13

15

17

4.           Cheshire

 

 

17

5.           Derbyshire

13

15

17

6.           Devon

13

15

17

7.           Hampshire

13

15

17

8.           Hertfordshire

13

15

17

9.           Leicestershire

13

15

17

10.        Lincolnshire

13

15

17

11.        Norfolk

13

15

17

12.        Northants

13

15

17

13.        Nottinghamshire

13

15

17

14.        Oxfordshire

13

15

17

15.        Shropshire

13

 

17

16.        Staffordshire

13

15

17

17.        Surrey

13

15

17

18.        Sussex

13

15

17

19.        Warwickshire

13

15

17

20.        Worcestershire

 

 

17

21.        Yorkshire

13

15

17

 

Agenda item 4.

 

The secretary requested membership fees to be forwarded to the league secretary by 30th September 2002; cheques made payable to Mr I Rizzotto. (Invoices will be sent out if requested.) For one age group £32, for two age groups £44, for three age groups £56.

 

If each fixtures secretary by 30th September could please send Ian Rizzotto a list of names, addresses, e-mail address and telephone numbers of each team manager. All correspondence will be made by e-mail if possible.

 

Also, if each fixtures secretary by 30th September could please confirm the date, age group, and venue of all your Shires League fixtures on the relevant form enclosed. (There are three forms, one for group A, one for group B and one for group C.)

 

Agenda item 5.

 

No date or venue was agreed for next years meeting. However, here are a few thoughts – please discuss these around your county. I shall conduct a ballot before Christmas to find the most acceptable proposal.

 

a.          Full membership meeting on Saturday 6th September 2003 at Babbington College, Leicester.

b.          Full membership meeting on Saturday 29 August 2003 at Babbington College, Leicester.

c.          Full membership meeting during late June / early July 2003 at Babbington College, Leicester.

d.          Three regional fixtures meetings – not necessarily on at the same time but arranged at a central venue to all the counties taking part in that league.

 

Agenda item 6.

 

Names, addresses and contacts (e-mail and telephone) of league secretaries for each membership county are enclosed with this letter. Please check your own contact as soon as possible and let me know if there are any errors.

 

Request from Sussex to arrange U11 fixtures please. If interested contact Mrs Kathy Jones.

 

Rogers Glews of Shropshire informed me on Sunday 1st September that he will make as many fixtures as he can by Wednesday 4th September, when he will step down as fixtures secretary. I will let you know the new contact details asap.

 

Paul Adcock was in receipt of a letter from Eric Brown (Chairman of ESBA), praising our efforts. I hope to send a full copy of the letter out to all members as soon as it is available.

 

Ian Rizzotto had said that over the past few days he was trying to set up a Shires League Web site that would contain up to date results and statistics, match reports and other related items. As he does not know how to build a web site, please excuse him for any delay!

 

It was agreed that the meeting had been fantastically successful. I should like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their support – a historical event in badminton terms has been achieved and we can look forward to our achievements.

 

Agenda item 7.

 

Fixtures were made from 1.30 to 2.20 when the meeting closed.